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of a deal in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. i'm not sure what his political point there but you substantialively --. adam: i have to go to scott. you get 20 seconds, then i'm giving kim because she is the small business owner last word. scott, any words of advice? they have to do something. they haven't done it yet. >> i go up and stock up on studebakers and yugos. watch out for the stock market here in 2013. a lot of things at play aside from a slowing economy. i think it will be really bum , man. adam: kim, you get the last word. what would you say to congress, not the president but congress, what they should do later tonight and this week? >> first off i would have made a decision a long time ago. we had two years to this problem. this problem should have been solved months ago. politicking should have been set aside. we should have got something done. people should not have gone home for thanksgiving. i don't understand if they're representing us as business owners why they can't act like us and make decisions like us. we have to do it every single day. adam: just to set the
senator thune. a fiscal cliff deal is a new way calculating inflation that would lower social security payments. democrats say they would do it as part of much bigger deal but it was off the table for the smaller deal they are working on. so democrats called it a poison pill. >> at some point, negotiating process, it appears there are things that stopped us from moving forward. i hope we're not there, but we're getting real close. that is why i still hold out hope we can get something done, but i'm not overly optimistic but i'm cautiously optimistic. >> chuck schumer from new york continues to say the things, meaning a deal, always happens at the end. >> gregg: we'll probably hear about the change of cpi which is basically a new way of calculating an index the cost of living and slowing down the growth of sbph like social security. we'll probably hear about. mike, thanks very much. >> arthel: we're going to the white house where president obama is holding firm to his demand and blaming republicans for the failure to reach a deal. the president also appearing on a political talk show th
to the fiscal cliff deadline. still no deal on the table that we know of. negotiations are going on. we haven't heard a lot out of them. that's a good thing. that means they are still talking. that's good. joining me now, debbie stabenow. ma'am, thank you for being here. but, you are frustrated, are you not? >> t.j., i am frustrated. we should have never, never gotten to this point. last summer, the senate passed a bill so middle class families are not held in hostage to the end whether or not the wealthier americans get a tax cut. we passed a bill to the house, it's never been taken up. here we are doing what i was afraid was going to happen, holding 98% of the american public hostage to debate whether the millionaires can afford another tax cut. >> you are there on the hill. we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had. what are you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing
as lawmakers struggle to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. peter barnes believes the president will announce a deal. we will bring you his comments live. it is an early close on the trading day. sandra smith is in the pits where traders are watching every development in washington. she joins us now with today's trade and how commodities are faring. sandra: we just had financial commodities close for the day. the treasury pits just closed minutes ago. it was an interesting close to watch. as you put up the board, treasuries saw their first loss in four trading days. another sign that these markets are predicting some sort of deal to get down by the end of the day. we are not seeing investors slinging. the yield on the ten year was the lowest close on record. certainly a big sign coming from those markets. they closed at the top of the hour. the dow, s&p and nasdaq futures closing here in chicago. just moments away from that. the electronic trading of all of these products will continue and have their mourner hundred normal trading hours of the day. we are watching gold prices. t
's resolution? will a last-minute fiscal cliff deal get done? and if it does what will it look like. >>> we have a deal. we may still get hit with an automatic tax hike. how much will that cost you? in time for the new year, a new snowstorm headed to the northeast. we'll let you know how bad this will get. and the yore in review, up with of the most unique and appalling takes on the year in review. good morning to you all. welcome to weekends with alex witt. no alex today. taking a much deserved weekend off. i'm t.j. holmes, good to be with you. new this morning, president obama outlining his course of action if we all go off the cliff. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we had a good me
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's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that meeting? >> well, i think that the decision to move the forum for the negotiations to the senate was a necessary one. i have a lot of confidence in harry reid's negotiating ability. mitch mcconnell is a veteran negotiator, and i think there's a far better prospect of something being worked out in the senate than there was dealing with speaker boehner and his completely dysfunctional house republican party. >> sure. well, abiding by convention and of course protocol, the senate won't return until sunday. will there be enough time for the senate leaders to really craft a deal that is substantiative and makes a difference, especially to the most vulnerable americans? >> yeah, i think
. >> we're goakd up with a small kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> the president did say deja vu all over again. if corker is right, we are going to say some of the same machinations we've seen before. if it doesn't happen, the president wants that up or down vote on his plan. >> remember night, monday night is new year's eve when it all could go bad. >> and happy new year to you. >> thank you, gary. >>> and economists are warning that going over that fiscal cliff could pull us all back into recession. congress impressional democrats attended a new year's eve style rally saying the fiscal cliff ball is in the republican court. surae chinn is on capitol hill. >> i'm urging congress to take action, stop playing games, and let's move on. >> reporter: frustration has boiled over for bob packer, a small business owner. >> i'm disappointed and angry. if they were my representeddives, i'd certainly vote them out of office. >> on tie mitchell of brokering a deal is waning. >> we do have a chance, an outside chance to get this done.
headquarters in atlanta. and as i speak, in deal yet on the fiscal cliff, but a big but, it appears lawmakers may be getting just a bit closer. >> and i'm joe johns live from washington where just moments ago the president encouraged lawmakers to cross the finish line. it was a compromise u.s. lawmakers signed into law in 2011 that contributed to the pending man made catastrophe that they have been warning about for more than a year. now, as the new year's deadline approaches, the fiscal cliff may be moving to a later date, in 2013. it is part of a possible deal that is forming at this hour. this, of course, represents the $3.6 trillion the u.s. government spent last year, unless congress reaches a deal when the new year hits. so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigg
in washington. there's no deal, no new offer on the fiscal cliff crisis. president obama has just told the two senate leaders they should make the deal. the results immediately felt in the financial markets. look where the dow closed down 158 points when it became very clear nothing was happening and now take a look at where the numbers are in the after markets. we would open now down 315 points on the dow if we started trading now. down 315 points. we have much more on this throughout the rest of the program, but the market's very unhappy. we do have some good news to report tonight. looks like at least one cliff has been averted for the time being. the so-called container cliff. the union that represents dock workers and u.s. maritime lines came to an agreement today to extend their current contract for 30 days. this is a big relief now for the retail industry and consumers who were staring at real destruction again for the supply chain. here now is jonathan gold and he's vice president of supply chain and customs policy for the national retail federation. jonathan, good to see you. >> miche
. whether those lines are used repeatedly over the next few days to reach a fiscal cliff deal is anybody's guess. joining me now for our daily fix, nbc's kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly, i want to start with you. senator scott brown just tweeted out to all his followers that he was getting on a plane heading to washington. the president has apparently sent over a new deal to the senate. what can you tell us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if th
less than a week to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. not a lot of time. how did we get to this point? taking you back to last week, you remember john boehner tried to get that alternative bill through the house. his own bill. he didn't have the support to do it. it fell apart. now things are in the senate and it will be up to harry reid and mitch connell and the president to try to come to a compromise to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and
to produce. >> that was president obama urging republicans to come together on a fiscal cliff deal. the comments drew a quick response to john boehner who said republicans made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the people. we have been responsible and reasonable. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. we are learning that the fiscal cliff talks have hit a major setback today. joining us is oklahoma congressman tom cole. what are you hearing? are you hopeful that there is a deal today? >> i am probably the last optimist in washington. all the parties that can make a deal are in town. that is a step in the right direction. there is very serious negotiations going on now between senator mcconnell and leader reed. they have found common ground. i wouldn't be surprised that there are bumps along the way but the senate will get something done and it moves to the house. and what senate would be extraordinary important. >> until now it appeared negotiations centered around a small deal that would likely extend bush tax
. the senate convened today for emergency session to deal with the fiscal cliff. the house has announced plans to reconvene on sunday. both senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke a short time ago and neither sounds hopeful of fiscal cliff deal will be made before the deadline. so at this point is there any chance the united states can avoid taking a fiscal cliff dive? joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very simply, sir, we appreciate you being here but is harry reid right? are we going off the cliff? >> well, adam i hope he is not right. at this point president obama indicated he is going to call and talk to our leader, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell and make a proposal. we're very interested to see what that proposal is. we put revenues on the table. there needs to be some savings. and i believe we can get a deal so let's go. adam: what will the do look like? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 250,000 and up. then he went to
of the year, hoping for a fiscal cliff deal. the dow jones industrial average gained 166 points to close at 13,104, up 7% for the year. the nasdaq rose 59 points to close at 3019, up nearly 16% this year. nearly two dozen people died in a string of attacks across iraq today. most of the violence targeted shiite communities and police. one of the blasts rocked baghdad's karrada neighborhood, sending smoke billowing above the skyline. the car bomb went off near a tent where shiite pilgrims were gathering. five people were killed there. in syria, elite troops, along with tanks, battled to dislodge rebels from a key southern suburb of damascus. the area is within firing distance of major government sites in the capital. amateur video also showed the aftermath of what appeared to be air strikes in the northeastern suburb of douma. the attacks toppled buildings and sent civilians fleeing. celebrations began today as the new year, 2013, dawned around the globe. we have a report from richard pallot of independent television news. . >> here we go! >> reporter: a perfect summer's night ushering in 2013
. >> holman: wall street rallied on the final trading day of the year, hoping for a fiscal cliff deal. the dow jones industrial average gained 166 points to close at 13,104, up 7% for the year. the nasdaq rose 59 points to close at 3019, up nearly 16% this year. nearly two dozen people died in a string of attacks across iraq today. most of the violence targeted shiite communities and police. one of the blasts rocked baghdad's karrada neighborhood, sending smoke billowing above the skyline. the car bomb went off near a tent where shiite pilgrims were gathering. five people were killed there. in syria, elite troops, along with tanks, battled to dislodge rebels from a key southern suburb of damascus. the area is within firing distance of major government sites in the capital. amateur video also showed the aftermath of what appeared to be air strikes in the northeastern suburb of douma. the attacks toppled buildings and sent civilians fleeing. celebrations began today as the new year, 2013, dawned around the globe. we have a report from richard pallot of independent television news. . >> here we g
on a deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff." before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democratic senate plan that extends tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. >> that's the only option that is viable escape route. >> reporter: but republican leaders say it's up to democrats who control the senate and white house to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the ur
at all. all eyes on the approaching fiscal cliff with just under eight hours left to make a deal. we've got you covered from capitol hill, we're going to be speaking live with congressmen from both sides of the aisle, representative tim hulz camp, mick mulvaney and dennis kucinich. david: also wilbur ross, chairman and ceo of -- [inaudible] and the former chairman of the white house council of economic advisers. i tell you, we get the prime guests right here. ed lazear says tax hikes hurt growth. find out just how much. liz: rich edson live on capitol hill with the very latest on the fiscal cliff countdown. larry shover live in the pits of the cme, and what action we saw, wow, and we've got more than $100 billion worth of advice from our market panel, bill greiner and sandy lincoln. but first, let's talk to rich edson and, rich, you know, you're looking at a situation at the moment where you have the president saying we're close, but no deal. you have senator mitch mcconnell on the republican side saying close, but no deal. leads me to ask, what about joe biden? our vice president? h
is getting ready to go over the fiscal cliff even though it's got a deal maybe close in hand. i'm wolf blitzer. i'm reporting in washington. >> lawmakers and vice president biden struggling all day on a deal, but no final vote. at least so far. we'll get the latest from the hill and show what this means for you and your taxes starting tomorrow. >> ali is going to be with us for the next hour or two or three. who knows. we're also watching a very serious health scare for the secretary of state, hillary clinton. she's now hospitalized with a blood clot. doctors are revealing where it is. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. >>> we'll get to the fiscal cliff negotiations. there's movement right now, but first, startling new information we're learning about the blood clot that landed secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital this new year's eve. her doctor is now revealing it's located in her head between her brain and her skull. let's go straight to our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta for the latest. they issued a pretty detailed
the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the programs since 2009. he felt it was important to get the message out there. you are right he was pounding the same message again and again f. we go up the fiscal cliff for not meeting them halfway. >>> not because democrats and congre congre congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but i think it has been hard for speaker boehner and republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off
have the political advantage of this deal, but the fiscal cliff could tip the country back into a recession. consumers are worried they'll start to pick up on the news and once it hits their paychecks they'll definitely feel it. >> do you think the consumers are paying as close attention as we'd like to think that they are. i think they are even though it's holiday time and going back to businesses and i was at the white house when president obama had a series of businesses with small business and big business owners and all of them had the same message. we want consumer confidence to remain strong and we want certainty for our businesses and even a ceo like lloyd blankfein of goldman sachs was out there and said he doesn't want taxes to go up on anybody, but compromise is the order of the day and from congress for business leaders. >> david jackson, you mentioned the white house has the political upper hand here. do you think if a new deal is reached that they maintain the political upper hand going into january and going into february as the debt limit negotiations start?
the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectations for a deal low, lawmakers are now talking about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff in the new congress. in washington nicole collins, fox news. >>> we are, of course, going to have much more on the fiscal cliff negotiations coming up at 10:30. a republican and democratic strategist will face off here and talk about the prospects for reaching a deal. >>> a strike that could have shut down ports all over the east coast have been averted for now. the longshoremen union along the east coast and the gulf of mexico says it will extend its contract for the next 30 days. that extension prevented a possible strike which could have crippled operations at ports that handle nearly half of all cargo in the united states including in our area at the port of baltimore. >>> we have breaking news tonight out of prince george's county where we are following a deadly fire in a townhome in green belt. you're looking live at the scene on laurel hill road.
: they are frustrated. they wanted that house republicans to return a lot sooner to work on a fiscal cliff deal. we know that it will not return until sunday, the house, here is democrat chris van hollen from maryland. reporter: this is not a show. the last ditch effort to bring congressional leaders together to try to get at least a small package ordeal together before the new year. in order to avoid some of the tax hurts of the fiscal cliff and unemployment. reporter: while there are discussions about a final fiscal cliff deal, there is finger-pointing going on. the blame game, if you will, if everything falls apart and the u.s. economy goes over the fiscal cliff. harris: i have to tell you that wall street is starting to react for a fifth day of losses on wall street. stocks are reacting, it is the final friday before the fiscal cliff. the dow is a 55-point drop, but it has been lower at that. it is still early in the trading day yet. the forecast for today is not looking good. a fifth day of concern there among investors on wall street. jon: flirting with out 13,000 barrier. part of the looming fisc
something about fiscal cliff, and then we'll move on that news, but traders are saying if we get a deal done, we'll see the market take off. we have not seen a santa claus rally this december, unfortunately, and, in fact, the nasdaq lower. stocks lower, by the way. here's the new york stock exchange, three stocks trading down for every one trading up. another thing trading up a the vix index. it's 20.18. the vix has traded below the two decade average, and that's not happened this month. we broke that trend. we have an uptick in the vix now. adam, back to you. adam: the question of the day, are we closing in on the deadline and potential plan to avert the fiscal cliff, about this afternoon's meeting between the leaders, and expectations between a deal are not running as high as they were back in november. remember this? >> i believe we can do this, avert the fiscal cliff that is right in front of us today. >> this is not something we are going to wait until the last day of december to get it done. adam. adam: proof words are cheap. it's the end of diecious, and absolutely nothing was done. w
. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would all be in time-out. if it was the private sector, they'd all be fired. there's absolutely no excuse. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spectacles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this, maria? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> well, i mean, it's easy for me to say that. i
are out of money. this means if a debt ceiling deal is not included any fiscal cliff deal, and it is not likely to be. gregg: then this debt mess continues for a few months. and we've still got to argue that out in congress between congress and the president. heather: geithner said last thursday, he called them, trort nary measures would have to be taken to borrow money. >> yep. heather: breaking news in europe on the big 75% tax rate that the french wanted to pass for the rich. >> the breaking news that a french court said a 75% tax rate on individuals is unfair. so it has been rejected. the court court says unless you apply it to households it is not fair to single out individuals. that means 75% tax at this moment is not in effect. the french government and francois hollande says, it won't make any difference. we'll rewrite the law using new wording and we'll catch more people in the 75% tax rate net. heather: stuart varney, i know you have a lot of work to do today. it is a busy day financially. thank you. >> thank you. gregg: what will it mean if lawmakers fail to str
, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol hill and cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, is that the sense you get that somehow we should be optimistic about whatever it is that's going on? >> you know, as we talked about before, you definitely get a feeling or the atmosphere here is that there is progress being made but in the same breath, but, there are still thingsing to worked out. as we wait for what we generally see when the senate opens which is the pledge of allegiance, a prayer and so forth, if you see the bottom of your screen, i'm not sure if you can see it, white hair, that is harry reid, the senate majority leader. it may be we will hear an update from him. maug maybe we should listen to th the. >> prayer. >> let us
, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patien
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. the president said he is modestly optimistic about a fiscal cliff deal getting done before new year's eve. >> clayton: they all said the same thing. presidential meeting with the leaders yesterday. harry reid. >> juliet: vice president showed up. >> clayton: they must have been all on the same table hey whether we lee this table we will say modestly optimistic. listen to senator mitch mcconnell who may be the linchpin of this whole thing. he said i will take the ball and run with it in the senate. get a deal done. listen to the senator. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> charles krauthammer calling him a master negotiator. saying if it were left up to him he could solve the syrian civil war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there
they would like to see any tax revenue that comes out of a fiscal cliff deal used to pay down our trillion dollars deficits. retiring republican senator from arizona, jon kyl, said the democrats want to spend $600 billion and he believes the new tax revenue will be about the same am. to he says not solving anything. for from senator to an today. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> republicans continue saying they're waiting for harry reid to make a counter offer. >> they're not making that tonight. he's told us that's not going to happen it but they're working on it. a sounds like a change of entitlement programs is irritating them. >> republicans created way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. the senate majority leader offered this update a short time ago. >>> i was really gratified to hear republicans took their dammed f
, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news? >> reporter: well, we do know this, a source familiar with these talks says that president obama is not going to be offering anything new during this afternoon's meeting. he's essentially going to be saying what he said at the white house last friday when he called on congress to put forth a package that would extend bush era tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less, extend unemployment insurance benefits, as well as stave off some of those deep spending cuts that are set to go into effect. the president is going to make the argument that
. the fiscal cliff's blame itak all onin the class. is it too late for a deal? stick with us.ot is computer-anid coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? :00 eastern, sharp sell-off underway on concerned we are about to tumble of the fiscal cliff, not a good sign from washington. good afternoon from lori rothman. tracy: no deal in sight. stock trading near their lowest level of the day with five days until the fiscal cliff, we hit it, we had done. washington bureau chief is going to tell us the only way he sees a deal getting done. lori: we are running against the debt ceiling again. and we just raise that? we are borrowing again. new mixed signals on the economy. jobless claims fell to a 5-year low but consumer confidence tumbled as well. the director of economic policy senior fellow kevin hasic will be joining us. tracy: the northeast digging out for several inches of snow and more is on the way. will it be at wet blanket for retailers this critical shopping weekend? time for stocks as we do every 15 m
's completely incapable of making a deal. and look, i think we're headed over the fiscal cliff because, again, i don't think the republican party is serious about playing an important role in governing this country. >> now, i don't necessarily disagree with you, but let me push back a little bit, and then i'll let dan jump in. >> sure. >> look, the argument i'm hearing -- and i don't know what cuts the president is offering to the republicans -- but why doesn't he offer more? why doesn't he give them -- i mean, anything more that he offers would be better than going over the fiscal cliff. why can't we get to something? why can't he give enough significant cuts that would make some of these republicans in districts that will really have problems when they go back to win re-election, if they raise taxes, give them some sort of incentive. give them some serious cuts. >> let's break apart your premise because i just -- i do not think -- i think there is a significant portion of the republican party that simply will never see any increases in revenue as necessary to run this government. i mean, you k
2009, when he was pushing health care reform, now, obviously trying to sell a fiscal cliff deerl deal. he went on nbc's "meet the press," again and again, he hammered the message, trying to put the blame on republicans for the fact we are up against this tight deadline. the president made clear that if republicans in the next 48 hours do not come up with a counter proposal to get us through this crisis, he wants an up-or-down vote on his short-term plan to extend unemployment for 2 million people and extax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. >> not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker bainer and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit, as part of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obgigs to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors, who are relying on medicare. >> reporter: the president focusing his comments on the
waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight, but it's not done. we we're hopeful that congress can get it done, but it's not done. >> so it's not done. in case you missed that, he said it twice, not done. reports of an emerging deal focus on a few key parameters, raising tax rates on couple it's making more than $450,000 a year, increasing the estate tax rate, and extending unemployment benefits for one year. the major sticking point new appears to be sequester spending. while the president said he would prefer a grand bargain, a certain branch of government stood in the way. >> with this congress that was obviously a little too much to hope for. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even one second left before you
deal to avoid falling off the fiscal cliff? >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart, and negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before, and i believe we can again. >> lawmakers work through the weekend. president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let
talking about all this. as we said, we are about to go over the fiscal cliff. if a deal is not reached to avoid the fiscal cli by january 2nd, automatic domestic and military spending cuts will kick in and the pentagon will be forced to cut $9 million in spending. >> if lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff, they may be able to avoid a different cliff, the dairy cliff. house and senate members appear likely to extend farm legislation for a year, a deal that would keep milk prices skyrocketing in january. we were worried about $6 gallon of milk. it could keep a decades old subsidy from coming back to life. the usda would be forced to buy milk at prices well above what farmers were getting now if the subsidy was revived. it could double the price of moib to $6.12 a gallon. >> markets have been reacting to each move on capitol hill, but obviously, things at this point are looking like the dow would open down by about 7.5 points. the dow is off 67 points and the nasdaq is down 14.75 points. all the surprised given the late hour that -- >> even if something doesn't happen today, it happens
. fiscal cliff talks at the white house end with no deal, but president obama says he's still hopeful and says "we've got to get this done." gold prices pulled back today on worries about the fiscal cliff, will the metal shine in 2013? then cuba, tonight's "market monitor" sees big opportunity on the tiny island when the embargo's lifted. thomas herzfeld, of thomas herzfled advisors joins us. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! president obama says he's "modestly optimistic" a fiscal deal can be reached in time. he said he's instructed senator harry reid and senator mitch mcconnell to come up with a plan that can pass in congress. his brief comments a short while ago came after a white house meeting today with congressional leaders that ended with no deal. ahead of that, investors lost hope lawmakers can come together in the time remaining. in the last few minutes of trading, stocks sold off. the dow tumbled 158 points, the nasdaq lost 25, and the s&p fell over 15 points. here's darren gersh with more on the critical work that has to get done in washington this weekend. >> reporter: th
'll know if there's a deal on the fiscal cliff or not and what either outcome means for you and your money. we'll talk to sheila bair, former fdic chairwoman. and texas congressman lloyd daggett. so much to talk about tomorrow. i certainly hope a deal has been done. >> nice to work with you. >> are you going to go to times square? >> i'm going to run the park. 2013 starts with a run. i conned my wife into it as well. she'll join me. >> happy new year to you. >> cnn newsroom with suzanne malveaux begins now. >>> happy new year. stories we're watching now. hours by hour, inch by inch, the nation sliding closer to the fiscal cliff. we'll have more on this morning's negotiations and what we'll lose if those talks fail. and workers in some states may see a pay raise but may not notice much of a difference. >>> guns are flying off the shelves after fears of a ban on assault rifles following the sandy hook massacre. we're live at the white house with the latest details. plus this. >> reporter: i'm alina cho in times square, where just hours from now new york will host what is arguably the biggest
lawmakers' monday night deadline and still no "fiscal cliff" deal is in sight. sunday the house has been called to an unusual session just in case an agreement is not reached. >>> a new report suggests the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing consumers to lose confidence in the nation's economy. the conference board said on thursday its consumer price index fell sharply in december for the second consecutive month. >>> a potential strike by dock workers along the east coast and gulf coast threatens to cost the nation's economy billions. more than 14,000 longshoremen are ready to strike sunday. a walkout would shut ports from boston to houston. those ports move as much as 100 million tons of goods each year including everything from flat screen tvs, sneakers and snow shovels. >>> ski world entertainment plans to become a publicly traded company. the company's three parks are known for their water shows with killer whales. it earned $86 million during the first nine months of this year. seaworld's other property including two busch gardens parks and sesame place in pennsylvania. back to you.
. anybody in any authorities says anything about the likelihood or otherwise of a fiscal cliff deal you will see the market react. it happened earlier this morning. there was a report that maybe these talks between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what it is. even if we get a very, very narrow deal, whoop-de-doo, we have a debt ceiling problem and amt taxes, government spending, all of those problems outstanding, nothing done. the dow jones industrial average is not done up for the opening bell, it's down, we're 42 points, 48 points going down as of right now. 50 points lower. what did you give, what did you get for christmas this year? chances are, a computer tablet maybe? accordin
. >> 30 hours to go until the country hits the fiscal cliff and still no deal. i'm melissa rayberger, and the white house has sent one of its top negotiators to capitol hill, but right now it's all centered on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems
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